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God's Super-Apostles: Encountering the Worldwide Prophets and Apostles Movement Kindle Edition

by R. Douglas Geivett (Author), Holly Pivec (Author) Format: Kindle Edition
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A new religious movement—led by apostles and prophets—has confused people, divided churches, and strained families as people are forced to make painful choices between those they love and what they believe to be the truth of God’s Word. This global movement is known as the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR).

God’s Super-Apostles provides a concise entry-level overview of the key teachings and practices of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) movement. This is a key resource in grasping the significance of this global, confusing, and controversial movement.
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R. Douglas Geivett is professor of philosophy in Talbot School of Theology at Biola University in La Mirada, California. He is the author of Evil and the Evidence for God, and coeditor of four books: Contemporary Perspectives on Religious Epistemology; In Defense of Miracles; Faith, Film and Philosophy; and Being Good: Christian Virtues for Everyday Life. Holly Pivec holds a master's degree in Christian apologetics from Biola University in La Mirada, California. She is an experienced journalist and researcher, having served as a newspaper reporter, a contributing writer to the Christian Research Journal, and as the university editor at Biola University for nearly ten years as well as the managing editor of the award-winning Biola Magazine. She has more than 200 published articles, many related to the New Apostolic Reformation, church trends, and theological issues. She currently operates a popular blog that critiques the New Apostolic Reformation, called Spirit of Error (www.spiritoferror.org).

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This is your 101 class for the New Apostolic Reformation. What they believe, how to identify them and how to guard yourself. Filled with wisdom and definitely an easy read. Cheers!
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J. Warren
5.0 out of 5 stars Know the truth--Be like the Bereans
Reviewed in the United States on April 2, 2015
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God's Super-Apostles is a much needed book in this day of questionable trends in the churches. Geivett and Pivec have done their homework in presenting the trends in the Worldwide Prophets and Apostles Movement, in which there are many variations, and names and teachings. Some other names that have been associated with these teachings through the years include the Third Wave, Latter Rain Movement, Manifest Sons of God, New Apostolic Reformation and more. The authors name names, so that the reader can begin to put some of this together, names like Peter Wagner, Bill Johnson (Bethel Church in Redding), Mike Bickle (International House of Prayer), Rick Joyner, etc.

The authors will cover various issues in a chapter as they are being taught and practiced, and then will follow up with a chapter that shows what the Bible says about the subject. One of the main keys is to always interpret Scripture IN CONTEXT. Out of context is where error often creeps in, and unsuspecting believers just accept it because it is in the Bible. There is much to digest in this book, and I plan to reread it soon.
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Kathryn
5.0 out of 5 stars NAR 101
Reviewed in the United States on January 24, 2015
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Anyone who is in an apostolic/prophetic (NAR) church or anyone who has a loved one in a NAR church may wish to read two books to become better informed on the New Apostolic Reformation. First, Peter Wagner in his book, "Apostles Today" makes his case for the existence and practices of present day apostles. But, don't stop there. Second, read Geivett and Pivec on, "God's Super-Apostles", to hear much more about their views of what leaders in the NAR cite as truth. Wagner uses Eph. 2:20, Eph. 4:11 and I Cor. 12:28 to justify his conclusions about present day apostles and prophets and discusses these Scriptures in a short chapter. Geivett and Pivec conduct a very thorough discussion of the same Scriptures and draw their conclusions out of them (exegesis).

In describing his research of apostolic ministries and activities, Wagner states: "I want to make it clear that my research methodology is not philosophical or theological (in the classical sense) nor exegetical or revelational, but rather phenomenological. I am not saying that any of these methodologies is right or wrong. Phenomenology clearly is not superior to exegesis. It is merely my personal choice. The phenomenological approach leads me to employ terms not found in the Bible, because I believe it is not necessary to only use the Word of God but to also combine the Word of God with accurate observations of the present day works of God." To sum up, Wagner bases his statements on the activities of apostles from current observations he has made, not on Scriptural exegesis or revelation.

Enter Geivett and Pivec with what appears to be a stark contrast to Wagner. In the preface of God's Super Apostles, Holly begins by talking about the Bereans who spent days searching the Scriptures (Acts 17:10-12) to see if they supported the new teaching from Paul. She enjoins Christians to respond the same way with the new NAR teachings. "We should hear it out with true sincerity and an open mind. We should not be quick to dismiss this teaching or label it false just because it is new to us. We should give it a fair hearing to see if it presents important truth that we may have missed. We should also be careful to test whether the teaching is true or not. That means we should patiently search the Scriptures to see how this teaching matches up. If it does concur with the Scriptures, then we should believe it, even if it goes against our own traditions and experiences and even if it makes us uncomfortable. But if such teaching doesn't line up with Scripture, then we must cast it aside. It is with this spirit of open-mindedness, fairness and thoughtfulness that we've endeavored to write this book."

Geivett and Pivec have done the body of Christ a great service in writing their two books (the second and longer is entitled "A New Apostolic Reformation?"). They are Bereans in their examination of the major beliefs of the NAR and conclude that the Bible does not support the claims that "there are apostles and prophets today who exercise extraordinary authority in the lives of others and governance of the church." I give them five stars in their efforts to pull together so much information from NAR leaders themselves and present their conclusions from solid Biblical bases. They did the heavy lifting for me!
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Truth Seeker
5.0 out of 5 stars Our Church is Entering the NAR - A Masterful Expose on this Dangerous Movement within the Christian Church
Reviewed in the United States on January 30, 2015
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Our charismatic church has recently "aligned" with one of the churches in this network. This church is headed by one of these prominent "apostles" in the movement. Some of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) beliefs are quite scary.

We are currently undergoing 12 week training setting the stage for NAR beliefs and there is many erroneous conclusions in this teaching.

This book served to confirm sound Christian doctrine and expanded my knowledge of this dangerous movement. The book examines Scripture in proper context. The book does this in a strong but non-accusatory manner. The authors have done a masterful work.

I strongly encourage anyone considering entering the NAR, already in the NAR or just want more information on the NAR to warn others to read this outstanding and eye-opening book.

Please pray for our church body so many of these precious people do not get hurt. Thanks.
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Brandi
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Reviewed in the United States on May 2, 2021
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This book is a helpful tool for understanding key distinctions between NAR ideas & what would be considered historical/ traditional understanding on various topics within the Christian faith.
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Deborah Anderson
5.0 out of 5 stars Awesome commentary
Reviewed in the United States on May 6, 2023
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Love the information for personal growth
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Alan Heron
5.0 out of 5 stars A very valuable book for those who love the truth
Reviewed in the United States on April 19, 2015
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A very balanced critique of the 'apostles' that have become influential in the Pentecostal/Charismatic churches, comparing their teachings with what the Bible has to say on the subject. Rather than providing 'proof-texts', the authors present relevant scriptures in the context that they were written and contrast them with the texts used by these modern day 'apostles', which are most often taken out of context, or even changed slightly from their original meaning. The authors are very careful in the language they use and refrain from accusations or character assassination, quoting the words of these people verbatim, to avoid any possibility of appearing to put words in the mouths of these men and women. A very valuable book for those who love the truth.
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CEP
5.0 out of 5 stars A great tool for churches who want to exercise discernment in ...
Reviewed in the United States on April 19, 2018
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An "easy to understand" read of a sly movement entering non-denominational churches. This is the laymans version of New Apostolic Reformation written by the same authors. A great tool for churches who want to exercise discernment in favor of sound doctrine as it also comes with a group study guide. An easy way to make your congregation aware of this insidious movement which is captivating the simple minded.
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Samuel Sarkissian
5.0 out of 5 stars Clear and concise. A quick intro into the chaotic world of the New Apostolic Reformation.
Reviewed in the United States on April 12, 2016
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You can't get all the details you might want to know about this movement by reading this book. But if you know nothing about the movement this is a good start . It's a quick read . Their other book is more involved and was intentionally designed that way. I really the strategy of producing both books on the same topic
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Suzzy90
5.0 out of 5 stars great read! helped clarify issues that I have been dealing with.
Reviewed in Canada on October 10, 2017
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As we watch a wave of new teachings sweep our churches, this book really helps clarify what is Biblical and what is not. Great read!
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Amy
4.0 out of 5 stars Very insightful and helpful book
Reviewed in Australia on November 10, 2017
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Helped a lot of things make sense that previously did not. Looking forward to reading the other book by same author that goes more in depth into the scriptures.
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Mr. B. Thorp
4.0 out of 5 stars A must-read for charismatics in particular
Reviewed in the United Kingdom on February 5, 2015
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I grabbed a copy of this book on Kindle after reading Tim Challies' review. This is an extremely good overview of some of the key NAR teachings, with a solid, Biblical approach to assessing them.

It is also extremely refreshing to read a book that doesn't try and shortcut the discussion by simply repeating cessationist arguments. This is probably it's main downside too, though - in its avoidance of discussing this underlying issue, it often finds itself unable to sow in "good" theology to replace the bad, as this would require displaying either a cessationist or a continuationist stance.

As a charismatic, and involved in a church that has been partly influenced by individuals and churches that are associated with NAR, I would thoroughly recommend this book. I liked it enough that I went straight out and bought a copy of their more comprehensive book "New Apostolic Reformation?"
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giantmaker
1.0 out of 5 stars A book seeking to balance something without being balanced!
Reviewed in Australia on January 18, 2018
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Early in my christian walk I remember picking up Richard Dawkins book “The God Delusion” out of curiosity, I had never read a book written by an atheist and was interested to explore their paradigm and arguments against the existence and faith in God. To my surprise I have to say that I was in great agreement about many of the things he was challenging about the way many Christians conduct themselves in faith and the beliefs they hold about God. In reading this attempt to capture the teachings of what the authors call the NAR , I have had a similar experience. This is not to say that by reading this book that you will be able to define the NAR as the authors have mixed a number of movements together, taken the extreme positions of each and labelled it the NAR. Also the perspective and context of most of the ministers mentioned happen to be from North America. This is not surprising as Americans tend to think that their nation is the centre of the universe. What this book exposes is some challenging theological positions that are embraced by the Pentecostal, charismatic, spiritual warfare, sign and wonders and revivalist movements in the earth. I agree with the concerns around many of these teachings. However this book seems to be written by conservative evangelical cessationists and therefore whilst I’m sure that many people of the same paradigm will feel they are affirmed in their current position and are now equipped to bring correction to those “Holy Spirit” brothers. I would suggest caution, patience and grace be extended to one another in the body of Christ!
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